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Karma Nanglu

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

And that's not just other animals, but it's like, could it be a feature of the animal's own gut?

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Could it be something about their gills?

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

So we kept on looking at photos of these kinds of structures.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Couldn't see any of them.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

And then eventually I wound up with these parasitic modern worms that build tubes that are very, very similar.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Yeah, no, totally.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Well, you know, the first thing to remember is for an animal to enter the fossil record is super rare.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Most things are never going to enter the fossil record at all.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

And then to have the association is doubly rare.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

And then what's cool about this, the shape of this trace specifically, is it's highly characteristic.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

And when we look at their modern day relatives, the spionids who produce these kinds of traces, we actually know quite a lot about their behavior and how they produce the trace because spionids on modern day oysters and mussels and other kinds of commercially important bivalves, you know, for eating, have been really well characterized.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

And so we kind of know what must have happened.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

The larva must have landed on one of these shells.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

It bore in sort of

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

dissolved away a little bit of the shell, built itself a little home, and then gradually elaborated this long tube out of which the adult worm would have stuck its face and its tentacles to feed on water.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Yeah, you know, 480 million years ago, this group of worms was living inside of basically small clamshells, completely content as can be.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Over the course of basically every major mass extinction, this group has continued to be successful to the point that we still are studying this modern group of organisms.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

So it tells you something about parasitic lifestyles, how resilient they can be.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Totally, yeah.

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Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Everyone likes to talk about dinosaurs, but, you know, these worms are, you know, a little bit innocuous, but they're still doing their thing.