Kasimir Burgess

Not long after that period of you being really unwell, your mum was diagnosed with cancer again.

For someone who'd gone through, you know, being given the last rites as a little girl, was she prepared for death, do you think?

Was it a presence for her differently because of what she'd gone through as a girl?

You must have been thinking about her or she must have been in your thoughts and in your heart while you were making this extraordinary film on the other side of the world.

Casimir, it's been really wonderful to speak with you.

Thank you so much for being my guest on Conversations.

Kasimir Burgess's film is called Iron Winter and we'll put a link to it at the Conversations website.

This story was produced by Jen Leake and recorded on the lands of the Yaggara and Turrbal peoples.

Our executive producer is Eliza Kirsch.

I'm Sarah Konoski.

Thanks for listening.

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