Kat Lonsdorf

Hey, Ari.

Yeah, like you said, King Abdullah was reticent on TV and careful not to make any kind of commitment. Both Jordan and Egypt have outright rejected Trump's plan, but Trump has made threats of cuts in U.S. aid and military spending to both. Both Egypt and Jordan depend heavily on U.S. support. Abdullah is in a tough place here, which is why he was so cautious.

Yeah, like you said, King Abdullah was reticent on TV and careful not to make any kind of commitment. Both Jordan and Egypt have outright rejected Trump's plan, but Trump has made threats of cuts in U.S. aid and military spending to both. Both Egypt and Jordan depend heavily on U.S. support. Abdullah is in a tough place here, which is why he was so cautious.

Yeah, like you said, King Abdullah was reticent on TV and careful not to make any kind of commitment. Both Jordan and Egypt have outright rejected Trump's plan, but Trump has made threats of cuts in U.S. aid and military spending to both. Both Egypt and Jordan depend heavily on U.S. support. Abdullah is in a tough place here, which is why he was so cautious.

He said he had to discuss the idea with other regional leaders. But there are no Arab leaders in the region who support this plan. It's possible that Abdullah and others are hoping Saudi Arabia, which is richer and more powerful, will talk Trump out of it. The Saudis were the first in the region to reject it, and very swiftly.

He said he had to discuss the idea with other regional leaders. But there are no Arab leaders in the region who support this plan. It's possible that Abdullah and others are hoping Saudi Arabia, which is richer and more powerful, will talk Trump out of it. The Saudis were the first in the region to reject it, and very swiftly.

He said he had to discuss the idea with other regional leaders. But there are no Arab leaders in the region who support this plan. It's possible that Abdullah and others are hoping Saudi Arabia, which is richer and more powerful, will talk Trump out of it. The Saudis were the first in the region to reject it, and very swiftly.

So Trump's proposal for Gaza hasn't directly come up in the current back and forth between Israel and Hamas, but it's certainly in the background. The U.S. taking over Gaza and relocating all of the Palestinians from there is not part of the ceasefire agreement. The ceasefire agreement took months to hammer out, and the U.S., including members of Trump's own administration, helped broker it.

So Trump's proposal for Gaza hasn't directly come up in the current back and forth between Israel and Hamas, but it's certainly in the background. The U.S. taking over Gaza and relocating all of the Palestinians from there is not part of the ceasefire agreement. The ceasefire agreement took months to hammer out, and the U.S., including members of Trump's own administration, helped broker it.

So Trump's proposal for Gaza hasn't directly come up in the current back and forth between Israel and Hamas, but it's certainly in the background. The U.S. taking over Gaza and relocating all of the Palestinians from there is not part of the ceasefire agreement. The ceasefire agreement took months to hammer out, and the U.S., including members of Trump's own administration, helped broker it.

So there's a lot of confusion on how this ceasefire agreement can actually proceed if Trump keeps pushing this controversial plan.

So there's a lot of confusion on how this ceasefire agreement can actually proceed if Trump keeps pushing this controversial plan.

So there's a lot of confusion on how this ceasefire agreement can actually proceed if Trump keeps pushing this controversial plan.

Yeah, for the most part, Palestinians we've heard from there say they want to stay in Gaza, despite the destruction and difficult living conditions they're faced with right now. Many feel like they've struggled throughout this entire war for Gaza to stay there, and they're not about to be forced off the land now. Here's 29-year-old Bassam Mohamed Abdelroof.

Yeah, for the most part, Palestinians we've heard from there say they want to stay in Gaza, despite the destruction and difficult living conditions they're faced with right now. Many feel like they've struggled throughout this entire war for Gaza to stay there, and they're not about to be forced off the land now. Here's 29-year-old Bassam Mohamed Abdelroof.

Yeah, for the most part, Palestinians we've heard from there say they want to stay in Gaza, despite the destruction and difficult living conditions they're faced with right now. Many feel like they've struggled throughout this entire war for Gaza to stay there, and they're not about to be forced off the land now. Here's 29-year-old Bassam Mohamed Abdelroof.

He talked to NPR's producer in Gaza, Anas Baba, while standing amidst the ruins of the main square in Gaza City. Even if there was a place that was a million times better, I would still live among the rubble and the tents, he says. It's hard to describe my love for Gaza, he says. Another person Anas Baba talked to in Gaza City was Nahed Ghonim. He's a surgeon at one of the hospitals there.

He talked to NPR's producer in Gaza, Anas Baba, while standing amidst the ruins of the main square in Gaza City. Even if there was a place that was a million times better, I would still live among the rubble and the tents, he says. It's hard to describe my love for Gaza, he says. Another person Anas Baba talked to in Gaza City was Nahed Ghonim. He's a surgeon at one of the hospitals there.

He talked to NPR's producer in Gaza, Anas Baba, while standing amidst the ruins of the main square in Gaza City. Even if there was a place that was a million times better, I would still live among the rubble and the tents, he says. It's hard to describe my love for Gaza, he says. Another person Anas Baba talked to in Gaza City was Nahed Ghonim. He's a surgeon at one of the hospitals there.

This is my homeland, he says, and I have no intention to leave, even if Trump provides me with the best of everything somewhere else. He went on to point out that the graves of his family killed during the war are in Gaza, and he won't leave them, and that his children were also killed and remain buried under the rubble in Gaza.