Kat Rosenfield

He never was.

And I don't really know what you do about an information landscape like that.

I mean, people should be more careful about...

vetting stories before repeating them they should be more skeptical when they hear something like this especially if it rings all of their bells you know if it makes them outraged if a thing makes you outraged and it's like perfectly calibrated to make you outraged you probably should investigate it that much harder because there may be something not quite right there i really like that line that's probably that's true of everything right if it feels perfectly calibrated for you to be outraged maybe you're missing something that's interesting

Yeah, I mean, this is something that I take seriously, you know, as a journalist.

I understand that there are going to be stories that seem to confirm every single one of my biases.

And we refer to these stories as like too good to verify.

You don't want to scratch the surface too hard because if it turns out not to be true, it's like, oh, it was so good.

Yeah, I don't really have a lot of sympathy for people who say that it's hard.

You got to do it anyway.

Doesn't that strike you as kind of sad?

Yeah, I don't think, well, I don't know.

We've gotten very far away, unfortunately, from the notion of journalists and journalism as primarily a truth-seeking enterprise.

Well, I mean, everybody is trying to, if you're an opinion expresser, then, you know, I mean, Scott Jennings is there to offer a counterpoint to whatever else is being argued on these panels that he's on.

And that's his job.

I mean, I think that there is a useful function.

If we're talking about people having conversations in a public forum and just, you know, giving voice to ideas.

One of the things that has been absent from a lot of, especially legacy media, is just representation of more than one side of a given issue, which leaves everybody somewhat bereft.

It's a real impoverishment in the discourse that people often don't know what they don't know because they're only consuming a narrative slanted in one direction.

There's not.