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Kat Rosenfield

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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But apart from that, I think that the people who are coming over as readers tend to be in search of something that fills in some of the blanks that are being left by the kind of contemporary legacy media landscape.

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People just want to get all sides of an issue.

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And the free press, you know, whatever else you think about it, that is something that it does.

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I haven't seen that.

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I think that the big thing about Minnesota, what happened to Minnesota, is I was so struck by not the actual shooting, which is, of course, horrible, but by what preceded it.

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And you see these videos of these two women interacting with ICE agents.

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And it's just very painfully clear that they misapprehended what the stakes of that situation were, what kind of a situation they were actually in.

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And obviously the results were very tragic, and I really wanted to understand how did it come to this?

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How did this happen?

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because that is a culture question.

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You know, you can leave aside the politics, you can leave aside what you think should or shouldn't be happening with immigration, and just see, okay, well, this is what is happening, and this is what did happen.

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And if we can understand the contours of it, maybe we can prevent it from happening again.

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And my sense of

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this shooting is that it arose from this sort of miasma in which everybody who was in a position to influence this series of events failed to take it as seriously as they should, was treating it like some kind of game or some kind of role-playing exercise or performance.

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That is true of the ICE agents.

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It's true of the president, the Department of Homeland Security.

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It's true of local officials who encouraged people to engage with ICE in a way that led them to misapprehend what was going to happen, what the stakes were.

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I think the least culpability rests with Renee Good and her wife.

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And that's what's really so tragic about this is that they were the least responsible for all of this.