Kate Bertash

We get a lot of really incredible and insightful data from organizations like If, When, How, who put out these reports that are called self-care criminalized. And they look backwards across all of the different cases that have happened in this space. And try to come up with sort of like these key aspects.

And one of the big things that we know that I'm sure we're going to talk about a lot through this episode is that the core way that people come to the attention of law enforcement for seeking to allegedly end their own pregnancies is through usually someone they know. reporting them or someone responsible for their care.

And one of the big things that we know that I'm sure we're going to talk about a lot through this episode is that the core way that people come to the attention of law enforcement for seeking to allegedly end their own pregnancies is through usually someone they know. reporting them or someone responsible for their care.

And one of the big things that we know that I'm sure we're going to talk about a lot through this episode is that the core way that people come to the attention of law enforcement for seeking to allegedly end their own pregnancies is through usually someone they know. reporting them or someone responsible for their care.

So that might be like healthcare workers, social worker, other representative agents of the state. And it can be really devastating to kind of hear and I think internalize that it's often people's family members, like ex or friends, neighbor who might turn somebody in expecting or misunderstanding that it is a crime to end your own pregnancy.

So that might be like healthcare workers, social worker, other representative agents of the state. And it can be really devastating to kind of hear and I think internalize that it's often people's family members, like ex or friends, neighbor who might turn somebody in expecting or misunderstanding that it is a crime to end your own pregnancy.

So that might be like healthcare workers, social worker, other representative agents of the state. And it can be really devastating to kind of hear and I think internalize that it's often people's family members, like ex or friends, neighbor who might turn somebody in expecting or misunderstanding that it is a crime to end your own pregnancy.

I think one of the things that's really hard about this is that it involves some of the ways in which like, I guess it's what you would call very unfortunately typical policing practices, the way in which people's like rights are violated when they are interrogated, when they are pressured into disclosing information.

I think one of the things that's really hard about this is that it involves some of the ways in which like, I guess it's what you would call very unfortunately typical policing practices, the way in which people's like rights are violated when they are interrogated, when they are pressured into disclosing information.

I think one of the things that's really hard about this is that it involves some of the ways in which like, I guess it's what you would call very unfortunately typical policing practices, the way in which people's like rights are violated when they are interrogated, when they are pressured into disclosing information.

There's something called a consent search that unfortunately ends up being a very common feature of these kinds of cases, which is where you're put in a room and you're talking to a representative agent of state or a police officer, and they sort of pressure you into agreeing to unlock and disclose often your phone and other device or to otherwise share information, quote unquote, voluntarily.

There's something called a consent search that unfortunately ends up being a very common feature of these kinds of cases, which is where you're put in a room and you're talking to a representative agent of state or a police officer, and they sort of pressure you into agreeing to unlock and disclose often your phone and other device or to otherwise share information, quote unquote, voluntarily.

There's something called a consent search that unfortunately ends up being a very common feature of these kinds of cases, which is where you're put in a room and you're talking to a representative agent of state or a police officer, and they sort of pressure you into agreeing to unlock and disclose often your phone and other device or to otherwise share information, quote unquote, voluntarily.

And it's easy to see why people kind of get pressured into that. So That is something that tends to happen in many kinds of prosecutions of crimes or alleged crimes. And I think it's hard for a lot of people to imagine what that's like to, you know, be pulled over and searched in this way. Or like they're often like people are not the targeted victims of something like stop and frisk.

And it's easy to see why people kind of get pressured into that. So That is something that tends to happen in many kinds of prosecutions of crimes or alleged crimes. And I think it's hard for a lot of people to imagine what that's like to, you know, be pulled over and searched in this way. Or like they're often like people are not the targeted victims of something like stop and frisk.

And it's easy to see why people kind of get pressured into that. So That is something that tends to happen in many kinds of prosecutions of crimes or alleged crimes. And I think it's hard for a lot of people to imagine what that's like to, you know, be pulled over and searched in this way. Or like they're often like people are not the targeted victims of something like stop and frisk.

And so it's sort of hard to imagine in your mind the way in which somebody's information or their data or, you know, their case comes to the attention of law enforcement.

And so it's sort of hard to imagine in your mind the way in which somebody's information or their data or, you know, their case comes to the attention of law enforcement.

And so it's sort of hard to imagine in your mind the way in which somebody's information or their data or, you know, their case comes to the attention of law enforcement.

And so we like tend to then imagine these other threats that feel perhaps closer to our daily experience, especially as like often people who are not racially targeted by police, who are not targeted by the family policing system or have their pregnancies surveilled by the hospital systems.