Kate Campbell

You're going to need to be saving maybe $40,000 or $50,000 a year, which means you're going to have to increase your savings rate.

Yeah, I guess that's probably a point too.

You're a double income.

Yeah.

What, dinks?

Double income, no kids?

That's kind of how they describe them?

Okay, I'm writing risks.

Kids are expensive.

I've actually realized- So clarifying the goal a bit.

And that's kind of like coming back to working out what your priorities are.

Like you can have anything, but you can't have everything.

So you can't do everything all at once.

And so you might have to say, all right, we have to move on from that property in order to get to our long-term dream goal.

Yeah, and plans changing.

I'm experiencing that.

Yes.

As you know, by the time this goes to air... I will be paying for things in euros and pounds.

I know you really want to do some travel in the next few years.

So it's hard to, how do you balance between that goal that's really tangible of the farm and travel, which is something that some of the things you want to do, you might not be able to do in your 50s and 60s and might only be able to do in your 30s.