Kate Cox

Are there episodes where in the middle of it, I'm like, boy, I could just be talking to the AI right now?

Yes.

I will try to do better at breaking that down.

I think one of the big learnings we had this year as a team was, well, we do a lot of prep.

Kate and Nick write amazing prep docs for me.

And I spend an hour before every episode just inhaling them.

And then the more I leave it behind, the better off we are.

where I just let the episodes go to wherever I think is interesting and I don't try to hit all the questions on the list, that's a thing that I'm going to start to push on to make the interviews more interesting.

But I do think the core dynamic of everybody can see me doing the work and that is the foundation for all the other stuff I say, that feels very important to me.

Because if I don't show my work, I'm not sure how I can earn trust in a media environment that looks like this one.

What do you guys think?

Should we just stop interviewing CEOs?

I will say that we all know when we get someone from McKinsey on the show that it's going to be a fight.

Like if you're a CEO and you spent time working at McKinsey, like I come ready for war against media training.

Like startup founders, we love startup founders because they're all just raw.

Like they're just ready to go.

They will say anything.

And there's a real dynamic there that I think is fascinating.

But yeah, the consultant class and I, it's ex-consultants and politicians where I'm still working on it.

I've taken it just swearing at the politicians.