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Kate Darling

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

I love that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

I like that you mentioned magic because that also... Well, so first of all, I don't define robot definitively in the book because there is no definition that everyone agrees on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

And if you look back through time...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

People have called things robots until they lose the magic because they're more ubiquitous.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

Like a vending machine used to be called a robot and now it's not, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

So I do agree with you that there's this magic aspect, which is how people understand robots.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

If you ask a roboticist, they have the definition of something that is, well, it has to be physical.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

Usually it's not an AI agent.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

It has to be embodied.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

They'll say it has to be able to sense its environment in some way.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

It has to be able to make a decision autonomously and then act on its environment again.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

And I think that's a pretty good technical definition, even though it really breaks down when you come to things like the smartphone, because the smartphone can do all of those things.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

And most robotists would not call it a robot.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

So there's really no one good definition.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

But part of why I wrote the book is because...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

People have a definition of robot in their minds that is usually very focused on a comparison of robots to humans.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

So if you Google image search robot, you get a bunch of humanoid robots, robots with a torso and head and two arms and two legs.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

And that's the definition of robot that I'm trying to get us away from because I think that it trips us up a lot.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

Well, because this constant comparison of robots to people, artificial intelligence to human intelligence, first of all, it doesn't make sense from a technical perspective because

Lex Fridman Podcast
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

you know, the early AI researchers, some of them were trying to recreate human intelligence.