Kate Langbroek

And I was thinking about your heritage.

You come to us from New York, but via Belgium.

And my dad, who is Dutch, was married in Belgium.

He married my mum and he would always say, oh, the Belgians are very unusual people, he said.

They have the practicality of the Dutch and the romance of the French.

And I think that that is kind of attendant in your work, do you think?

Right, yes.

And because the Catholic have the flamboyance, I guess, even in their worship that the Protestants do not have.

Yeah.

Yeah, quite austere.

Yeah.

A freedom.

Yes.

So you brought, I think...

that freedom to what previously I think a lot of people would have thought as quite a dry science, the science of psychotherapy.

Like what sort of questions?

Because it's almost like listening, for instance, to, you know, where should we begin or generally to listening to you speak.

The power that you have is almost like you're a mind reader.

but I feel like you're speaking about me and my relationship, but hundreds of thousands of other people also feel like you're doing that.

That's extraordinary.