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Kate Legge

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
744 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

other domestic imperatives got in the way.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

And I went through them and that was where I became interested because a lot of the papers recorded the things that had happened in a number of members of our family.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

And at that time, I had discovered this beautiful poem called The Circus Animal's Desertion by William Butler Yeats, where he's writing... My favourite poet, by the way.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

Is he?

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

Oh, he's beautiful.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

And this is one of the last poems he wrote.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

And he was looking back.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

He's no longer as prolific as he once was.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

So he's lingering, trying to find a sort of lingering truth that lives on beyond the vestiges of youth and fortune and wondering at the muse.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

And this is the last verse.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

And this is what really grabbed and took a hold of my heart.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

He said, those masterful images, because complete, grew in pure mind.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

But out of what began...

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

a mound of refuse or the sweepings of a street, old bottles, old kettles and a broken can, old iron, old bones, old rags, that raving slut who keeps the till.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

Now that my ladder's gone, I must lie down where all the ladders start, in the foul rag and bone shop of the heart.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

And I felt that really summed up for me where I wanted to go in tracing these seams of darkness, both through my husband's family and then through my own family, because looking for meaning and measurement later in life and wondering about the things that forge destiny, circumstances, temperament, and the plaiting of the kinship strands.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

The foul rag and bone shop of the heart is one of his most famous and most powerful lines, isn't it?

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

It's beautiful.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

It's beautiful because if you think about opportunity shops and, you know, they're full of chipped memories and stunted hearts and you never know what you're going to find and it's often things that have been discarded that can be the most illuminating and that's what I found going through my father's papers.

Conversations
Encore: Is there a cheating gene?

It wasn't so much the, you know, the records of momentous achievement but it was the scraps of paper with letters from various members of the family that revealed to me, you know, their heart.