Kate Leinbaugh

This song feels like it's everywhere this time of year. And the numbers back that up.

This song feels like it's everywhere this time of year. And the numbers back that up.

All I Want for Christmas is so popular, it's easy to forget that it hasn't always been like this. The song's surge to the top of our collective playlist happened fast, and it actually happened pretty recently. John wanted to know why.

All I Want for Christmas is so popular, it's easy to forget that it hasn't always been like this. The song's surge to the top of our collective playlist happened fast, and it actually happened pretty recently. John wanted to know why.

All I Want for Christmas is so popular, it's easy to forget that it hasn't always been like this. The song's surge to the top of our collective playlist happened fast, and it actually happened pretty recently. John wanted to know why.

So John, who covers the entertainment industry, went straight to the source and called up the queen of Christmas herself.

So John, who covers the entertainment industry, went straight to the source and called up the queen of Christmas herself.

So John, who covers the entertainment industry, went straight to the source and called up the queen of Christmas herself.

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Linebaugh. Coming up on the show, the rise and big business of All I Want for Christmas is You.

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Linebaugh. Coming up on the show, the rise and big business of All I Want for Christmas is You.

Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Linebaugh. Coming up on the show, the rise and big business of All I Want for Christmas is You.

John wanted to talk to Mariah about how All I Want for Christmas got so big. But the official reason for the call was her new project for Apple TV, Mariah Carey's magical Christmas special.

John wanted to talk to Mariah about how All I Want for Christmas got so big. But the official reason for the call was her new project for Apple TV, Mariah Carey's magical Christmas special.

John wanted to talk to Mariah about how All I Want for Christmas got so big. But the official reason for the call was her new project for Apple TV, Mariah Carey's magical Christmas special.

So you were on a video call with Mariah Carey.

So you were on a video call with Mariah Carey.

So you were on a video call with Mariah Carey.

What did it look like?

What did it look like?

What did it look like?