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But you had with Roger Moore and a little bit too.

Oh no, they're cringing, Jessie.

How did they do that?

Anyway, let's just say those were the days, however you wanted to look at them.

But the casting of Daniel Craig, I will never forget the headlines.

I mean, I was well entrenched in entertainment journalism at the time and I was just shocked.

He was vilified.

The boat that came up from the Thames and he alighted and everywhere.

The headlines, you'll remember them, Alexia.

Bond is not blonde.

Look, we all are.

Well, in hindsight, of course.

But also, he brought his acting chops with him here.

Well, yeah, that's what I was going to ask you.

Well, I would like to argue you have to be a good actor to be a good Bond.

I believe that to be true.

And even if we look back through the ages and, you know, at the hamminess of Roger Moore, and also, you know, Pierce was pretty hammy as well.

In a glorious way.

Yeah, in a glorious way.

But of course they could act and they could embed themselves in it.