Katherine Aguilar

I don't know.

You know what's crazy for me is I'm really not a conformist.

I like to challenge things and I hate labels.

Even the mentor thing, you know why I don't want to be a speaker?

Because I see that label as a speaker and I'm like, I don't want to be the guru.

I mean, but it just goes to it.

Like you're under that umbrella.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm like, every time somebody is like, who's a visionary and who's an integrator with us?

I'm like, man, I don't know.

Because I thought for a long time he was visionary and I'm integrator.

And now that we've kind of really dived really deep into commercial real estate and then also commodities private, all the big deals that we're doing right now, it's like we're both leading different fronts.

So we're almost like multifaceted visionaries and integrators.

Yeah.

And I can't label myself as just an integrator anymore because that's what I used to do for DCBX.

I would do all the behind the scenes.

I would run the volunteer program, 300 volunteers, all the back end stuff and everything.

Yeah, I think I'm more of a hybrid.

He can't be a hybrid.

You are straight visionary.