Katherine Aguilar

And then afterwards, you're like, oh, no, we need to make money.

So that was a pivotal point.

It was that and then also producing events.

And then DC.

And our shows, yes.

So basically everything around being in person.

Right.

Right.

And everything was shut down.

It was just like, it was insane.

Our entrepreneurial creativity also blossomed because you're in just one place, you're isolated, and then we could actually brainstorm together.

And Lee is a marketing genius as well, and so it was just such a great vibe also, even though it was also like, hey, this is also a wake-up call, but it was also like a creative revival at the same time, which was cool.

Yeah.

I think we were done basically with the idea of like, okay, this is not going to blow over.

And I can't remember like a specific day, but I think what the one thing was that we were already preparing prior to COVID to start a family.

And then this happened and we go and we're like...

how are we going to do this and sustain a little kid?

And then, you know, we wanted to have more kids.

And so we're like, how is this going to happen?

And so I, as a, as mommy, you know, I turned into this mommy mode already before I even had my kids.