Katherine Boyle

That was... They didn't have that luxury.

They didn't have the extended adolescence where they could, you know, say, oh, well, I don't know myself.

Like, how am I going to go to war if I don't know myself?

Like, the greatest generation wasn't able to say that.

They just had to do it.

And in some ways, it's like, you know, we can definitely make the argument that things are better now in many ways.

Like, you know, people...

People are living longer.

You can definitely make the argument that these things were not necessarily good for society, but at least there was a societal purpose and organization.

And I think the thing that has really been corrupted over the last 50 years is that we do not know what our American purpose is.

And particularly as it comes to the family, family has become an option.

It's no longer the default institution that you build your life in.

And without that default institution you build your life in, people just, they flail.

You have the loneliness epidemic.

You have young women and men who- Depression.

Depression, exactly.

Yeah.

They're both the New York Times.

I think it's a result of both legal and medical decisions, because I think the medical community has a huge part of this as well.

But I think it comes down to the war on suffering has been won.