Katherine Boyle

Maybe going to church is a good thing.

I mean, you even have the New York Times.

People, you know, on the op-ed pages, I always think like they're a good beacon of sort of liberal thought.

The op-ed page is saying, well, maybe we should return to religion.

Yeah.

I mean, they've been putting out some stuff recently where it's like, funniest one, the op-ed page from last week had three different stories about the declining birth rate.

three different stories about what is wrong that we are not having enough children.

And that used to be a conservative, social conservative, religious person talking point about having more babies.

And now the New York Times is worried.

And they're saying, there was another article that was so funny, I wish I had the actual headline.

It was like, we don't see men anymore.

Where did the men go?

The men need to come back.

Come back to us.

It's a woman talking about how there's a gulf between men and women.

And I'm just thinking, at least they see there's a problem.

They don't know the reason for the problem.

That's a whole backstory.

Hopefully they'll learn at some point, but they see there's a problem.

And so I think I'm at least optimistic that we seem to be kind of turning the corner on, okay, it's good to have families.