Katherine Boyle

Yeah.

I mean, I was very interested in politics, foreign affairs.

That was like my love growing up.

I'd say the big thing that happened before I went to college was my father got very sick.

He was chronically ill.

So around when I was 12 years old, he had to retire.

And I think that's something where if you're a kid that grows up with a chronically ill parent, you grow up really fast.

I'm seeing it happen with my friends now.

Their parents are getting older in their 60s and their 70s, and it's sort of like the caregiver-caretaker relationship and then the provider relationship sort of flips, where when you're in your mid-40s, you start taking care of elderly parents.

But I had that when I was 12, right?

It was like he had a severe heart attack and then had a chronic condition that made it hard for him to get out of bed.

So my mother was an absolute saint.

Yeah.

Which is why I also think kids are resilient.

And my mother, again, an absolute saint.

She didn't try to keep it from me.

She was like, your father's sick.

Doctor thinks he's probably going to die.

But this is suffering.

And he's going to suffer through it, right?