Katherine Boyle

It changed our lives.

These kids weren't even born.

You know, like they have no recollection of some of the things that we understand.

And I think because of that, they have this youthful optimism of loving their country and wanting to build for the next generation of defense.

So it kind of keeps me going, too.

I think I'm like you where it's tempting to blackpill.

It really has.

Yeah.

A lot of mistakes we can talk about.

Yeah.

The startup community has to fix this problem because it's not going to come from the traditional primes.

It's not going to come from family-owned machine shops.

The new technology needed, particularly on the industrial-based side, is so important.

You need hardware, you need software, but most importantly, you need people who understand how to build for production.

So I think that startups are going to be, you know, they are integral.

That's the whole thesis of American Dynamism, which we'll get into.

But the real thing we need to be focusing on, and I think a lot of people don't recognize that, you know, they know Anduril, they know SpaceX.

Those are companies that sell directly to the government.

There's a whole other category of company that's building for the legacy primes.

It's building satellite buses or building automated machine shops so that you can build more critical parts for aerospace and defense.