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Katherine Boyle

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

Post the Last Supper, when the DoD came to all these companies and said that there's going to be massive budget cuts post-Soviet Union, you're going to have to merge.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

That led to a merging of these companies where there was just no competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

I think the DoD thought by merging them that you'd save the companies, that they'd become more efficient, the opposite happened.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

It just meant that they didn't have to innovate and they didn't have to work hard because there was no competition.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

I think the best thing that can happen is we'll probably see those primes lose a stranglehold on programs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

They're good at building some things.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

They're good at building very exquisite systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

We were talking about the B2 and how we only have 19.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

The companies, like the startups that we are investing in now, they want to build thousands of something.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

That's how they're building their product design is to build attributable systems versus these legacy exquisite systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

So I think you'll see primes that are focused on the things that they know how to build that take a little bit longer.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

I think they'll lose their stranglehold on sort of getting these new programs of records.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

I think that would be the best thing that could possibly happen.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And then startups can focus on the things that have to be made fast, and particularly the software-defined, you know, attributable systems that operate in the battlefield that have to be upgraded, that have to be changed based on the technology that's changing the battlefield.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

I don't think the primes are capable of doing that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

It used to be when I would go to, so I was a very early investor in Anduril.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And in Silicon Valley, a billion-dollar company is like a big deal, you know?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

It's not a big deal.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

A billion dollars in Washington is not a big deal, which tells you how screwed up our incentive systems are.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

But when I would go to talk to people inside the DoD or talk to, you know, across administrations, you know, from 2017, 2018, 2019,