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Katherine Boyle

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2165 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

They don't want to do the work of the company, which is to build

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

you know, to build an app or to write a story, they want to go there and they want to shake up the company.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

They want to be activists inside the company.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And, you know, what really changed, I think, in Silicon Valley that sort of led people to say, okay, we can build hard things, one.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And I think that's why there's a lot of people focusing on like, let's build things that are so hard that you don't get these activists into your company.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

But there was another company called Coinbase where the founder of Coinbase, I believe it was 2020,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

Brian Armstrong, he wrote a letter called the Coinbase Memo.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And he said, if you want to be an activist, and it was during BLM and just after Me Too.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And he said, if you're going to be an activist, you can go somewhere else.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

Our mission is to focus on crypto.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

It's to focus on ensuring that we have the best customer support and that we serve our customers who are interested in crypto and we expand that customer base.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And if you care about anything else at this company, you can walk out the door.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And he lost, I think, 6% of his company that day.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And he's like, you know, he'll say it publicly, that's the best thing he's ever done because those are the 6% of people who were causing a lot of problems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

And the same can be said about Google and Project Maven.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

It's only a tiny portion of people inside of a massive company.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

You know, I think it was like 2%, 1%, less than 1% of people signed the Project Maven letter and walk out.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

We're not going to work with the DoD.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

But that can cause so much damage to a company if a company allows the activist class to control them.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#216 Katherine Boyle - America's Defense Tech Renaissance

So I think the thing that people learn from watching Elon just completely remake Twitter, and Brian at Coinbase really say, like, hey, see the door, is I think a lot of founders are now saying, hey, we can work on these hard problems.