Katherine Mangu-Ward

We do what we want.

And I think not only is that.

poisonously bad politics and especially not just we won the election but we hold the the presidency and we do what we want because increasingly that is what it means to do things in politics in any way shape or form is emergency orders executive orders it's all coming out of the executive congress you know

The Supreme Court in their ruling this week begged Congress to do their jobs again.

It was so good.

I think you were right the first time.

It was juicy.

And, you know, I have had my disagreements with some of Gorsuch's rulings, but I think the way that he hit the nail on the head there is just...

know it's undeniable by the way a western conservative a western conservative i mean i'm just not saying i'm just saying colorado true um so i think you know this this kind of um

this idea that we hold power, whoever we are and whatever power is.

And so therefore, full speed ahead when, as you say, you know, our founding documents do not endorse that perspective on the presidency or the executive branch.

And the American public doesn't actually think that either.

They don't.

You know, when you look at the polling, especially about, you know, about the ICE enforcement actions in major cities,

They don't like it.

They see it and they don't like it.

When you look at the, you know, how the markets are responding to tariffs, they're seeing it and they don't like it.

And then, you know, additionally, now we have how the court responds.

They see it and they don't like it.

And all of those signals are really meaningful and the founders meant them to be meaningful.