Kathryn Schulz

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152 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard May 2025 last heard May 2025

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I think, you know, the only answer I can reasonably provide is it actually did feel that crucial to the kinds of, we learn to write the alphabet so we can learn to write words and we learn to write words so we can learn to write sentences. And actually the word and is the third most common word in the English language.
And the only ones we use more often are the, you know, the article the and various conjugations of the verb to be. But it is, I agree, it's very interesting. It suggests a kind of importance to the ability to incorporate that into how we write down our experience of the world.
I know what a beautiful idea, actually, that anything should end in and, right? That something that seems like an ending is actually an explicit reminder that there's always more, that something else can be connected, that something else can happen next. I find it very beautiful.
First of all, I have to say thank you so much for always asking this question, both because I delight in learning what people read about and because, oh, it's just nice to know that literary culture, however embattled it might be, is still shaping our lives and our thoughts in all of these wonderful and enduring ways. Okay, my three.
Number one, it's so funny you mentioned that you're reading Wolf Hall. I would like to encourage you and your listeners at some point to go read A Place of Greater Safety, which is the book Hilary Mantel wrote before turning to Thomas Cromwell and his compatriots. It is about the French Revolution. 800 pages long, incredibly undisciplined, absolutely unruly, and wildly great to read.
I also recommend it because it is fundamentally the story of three people who are trying in full sincerity to make a better nation. And instead just absolutely destroying it and destroying themselves in the process. And I don't mean to suggest we're on the eve of a French Revolution-style catastrophe. I certainly hope not.
But it is nonetheless extraordinarily interesting reading material right now. So that's number one. Number two is a book that just is out this week, I believe, which is this wonderful graphic novel spent by Alison Bechdel with beautiful color artwork by her partner, Holly Rae Taylor.
It's about the experience of growing up in a relatively hardscrabble family and living this kind of marginal artistic existence and then suddenly finding yourself reasonably well off. And it's very adjacent to these questions we've been discussing of, well, How do you enjoy your life and your money and also live your values and interact with your community?
And it's very smart on the questions of what we do with our money and our money and our morals. And it's also just riotously funny as all of her work is. So that's number two. And number three is a book I think I've heard you talk about as well, also a relatively new book.
And I'm partly shouting out my partner here because she was involved in the Michael Lewis Project, who is government, which is this collection of essays by these wildly different writers about government bureaucrats, which at the time that I first heard about it, I was like, I don't really know how well a book about bureaucrats an anthology of essays about government bureaucrats is going to do.
And tragically, it met the moment. And I can't think of a better thing for people to be reading right now than these, I found just incredibly moving stories about what these alleged agents of the deep state are actually doing with their time and doing on behalf of the American people. So those are my three recommendations for you.
Absolutely my pleasure. Thanks so much for having me.
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