Kathryn Schulz

Like that's insane. You gave us a human being, right? That's incredible. I mean, to be clear, like we, you know, my partner grew that human being for nine months.

Like that's insane. You gave us a human being, right? That's incredible. I mean, to be clear, like we, you know, my partner grew that human being for nine months.

But it kind of has that feeling of like, wow. I mean, we just go home and raise these children and they are their own creatures. And having new minds to interact with feels incredible to me. Yeah. I think I've also found, and I feel based on our earlier conversation about kind of what's been lost from past generations that perhaps you'll appreciate it.

But it kind of has that feeling of like, wow. I mean, we just go home and raise these children and they are their own creatures. And having new minds to interact with feels incredible to me. Yeah. I think I've also found, and I feel based on our earlier conversation about kind of what's been lost from past generations that perhaps you'll appreciate it.

I have found a tremendous satisfaction in duty. I can't say that duty is something I thought about much before this. I'm not of a generation where duty like thrift was an obvious value. I didn't join an institution like the military where duty is an obvious value, but

I have found a tremendous satisfaction in duty. I can't say that duty is something I thought about much before this. I'm not of a generation where duty like thrift was an obvious value. I didn't join an institution like the military where duty is an obvious value, but

But I'll tell you, no matter how tired you are, at 7.30 in the morning when your kid wakes up, you go in and you help her get dressed and you make sure she has a good breakfast.

But I'll tell you, no matter how tired you are, at 7.30 in the morning when your kid wakes up, you go in and you help her get dressed and you make sure she has a good breakfast.

Oh, God bless her. She has for every day since she was like three and a half months old. The littler one, iffier. But... Oh, I just, you know, it's not always what you want to be doing. I mean, my number one fear about parenthood is I am so deeply not a morning person. I mean, my favorite hours to write are 10 p.m. to 4 in the morning.

Oh, God bless her. She has for every day since she was like three and a half months old. The littler one, iffier. But... Oh, I just, you know, it's not always what you want to be doing. I mean, my number one fear about parenthood is I am so deeply not a morning person. I mean, my favorite hours to write are 10 p.m. to 4 in the morning.

So on some fundamental level, everything I had been doing for my entire adult life was deeply at odds with the task of parenting, which is frankly being up at the crack of dawn many days in a row. And yet it's a deep kind of satisfaction to feel like this is what you do. You do it for yourself, you do it for your children, you do it for your partner, and you do it because you have to.

So on some fundamental level, everything I had been doing for my entire adult life was deeply at odds with the task of parenting, which is frankly being up at the crack of dawn many days in a row. And yet it's a deep kind of satisfaction to feel like this is what you do. You do it for yourself, you do it for your children, you do it for your partner, and you do it because you have to.

And that's a kind of liberation and a kind of wonderfulness and a whole category of existence I found because I had children that I had never appreciated, let alone kind of valorized before.

And that's a kind of liberation and a kind of wonderfulness and a whole category of existence I found because I had children that I had never appreciated, let alone kind of valorized before.

Oh, yeah. I think that actually a real imperative of parenting and a real imperative of being human is you are present for those around you who need you most. And you provide stability and security and you find hope because actually it's crucial to foster hope for the next generation. And So yes, of course, I mean, it's very tricky.

Oh, yeah. I think that actually a real imperative of parenting and a real imperative of being human is you are present for those around you who need you most. And you provide stability and security and you find hope because actually it's crucial to foster hope for the next generation. And So yes, of course, I mean, it's very tricky.

You know, there are children the age of my children whose parents vanished overnight. And that's horrifying to me. We are living in trying times, let us say. That said, you know, again, depending on where you look, all times are trying times. There's never been a shortage of suffering in the world. But I am troubled by the...

You know, there are children the age of my children whose parents vanished overnight. And that's horrifying to me. We are living in trying times, let us say. That said, you know, again, depending on where you look, all times are trying times. There's never been a shortage of suffering in the world. But I am troubled by the...

forms of suffering that are happening all around us now and I feel complicit in some of them and I want to be giving them my undivided attention and not ignoring them even when it's not obvious to me how I might positively intervene on them. I certainly don't want to just pretend they don't exist. Um, and yet I still have to be joyful for my kids and goofy for my kids.

forms of suffering that are happening all around us now and I feel complicit in some of them and I want to be giving them my undivided attention and not ignoring them even when it's not obvious to me how I might positively intervene on them. I certainly don't want to just pretend they don't exist. Um, and yet I still have to be joyful for my kids and goofy for my kids.