Kathy Kay

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So anyway, today I have on Mr. and Mrs. Jones from We Got a Thing podcast.

Now listen, I get why they have a podcast because they are so well spoken, well versed.

They know so much when it comes to swinging because they are swingers.

Okay.

But they didn't

start swinging until they were like literally 29 years into their marriage.

And we totally get that whole story.

They dove right in, wait till you hear their first experience.

And after that, they continued on and they talk about the bumps in the road.

Mr. Jones experienced some jealousy, like right from the get go.

He talks about that, but that didn't deter them.

They continued on and they talked about how they went to all different kinds of clubs and

resorts and hotel takeovers and all that kind of good stuff, trying to figure out what was like the right thing for them.

And they talk about what was the right thing for them, which was couples, hooking up with couples.

They love couple swaps.

They talk about that.