Kathy Kay

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Well, I have a 10-year-old son, and I believe that the younger generation has completely changed already.

I think the heterosexual male is like the minority in all the shows that I watch with my son.

Like everybody on the shows we watch, all the young kids in high school and middle school, they're all like dating each other.

No one's, everyone's bi.

No one's even practically gay.

You know what I mean?

They're just open.

So I think it's definitely different.

But I know for older people that stigma still exists.

And that was just weird to me that it's still even in that world, you know?

So let's get your guys' story.

So now, so how long were you married before you decided to get in?

29 years you were married first before you got into the thing or you're married now 29 years total?