Kathy Kay

And I don't know why you don't know that.

Where do you live?

Yeah.

I mean, you know, how did you find my show by the way?

Like, did you find it from like one of the episodes about a guy that's into this kind of thing?

Or did you find like what, what, why listen to it?

Like what drew you to my show?

What episode did you listen to that got you to call in?

So that's kind of where, where I found I just stumbled upon it searching and Listen, I asked that all not because I you know, I it's more so because I'm wondering if you know, if you listen to a lot of the

guy on guy ones because i do have a lot of uh episodes that you'd learn all the stuff that i'm telling you so that's why i'm thinking maybe you haven't listened to those episodes even though you found my podcast you know you were listening other ones because these all these people talk about all this shit like you could find out how to do it exactly by listening to like 50 episodes of guys who have

been you before and then you after and you could listen to their journey and see exactly how they got from like, you know, sort of wanting to experience it, fantasizing about it and then living it out in reality.

yeah no i i guess i haven't listened to yeah that's interesting that was my point that's what i was getting at i was like yeah it's like interesting you found my podcast i was assuming you found it because of the guy and guy stuff because i'm a big promoter of like guys just being okay with it you know what i mean because there's such a stigma around it and it's so stupid like i said i think it's different with the younger generation but there is still a stigma around it and so many guys keep it to themselves and everything so i do have a lot of episodes where

on this topic.

And I do suggest that, you know, your next road trip or one hour trip someplace, you start listening to some of those.

You could search on Spotify.

If you go into Spotify, that's a great app because you could search at the top of any podcast.

Like if you go to the top, there's a search bar and you could like literally put in by or guy on guy, you know, or guys, and you're going to find those episodes super easy.

I have over almost 1500 episodes at this point.

And I have tons of stories of guys like you know,

So you could, you know, hear those stories.