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Kathy Kunkel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
29 total appearances

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Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

I cannot imagine someone designing this system on purpose.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Seriously, it has sort of evolved.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

And as problems have come up, it's been kind of taped together to keep working.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

But yeah, I don't think this is really what anyone would just sit down and dream up.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Power demand or our use of electricity is not constant throughout the day or throughout the year.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

In particular, it spikes typically at certain times.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

There will be rolling blackouts.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

I actually happen to be in Puerto Rico right now where that's actually a relatively frequent occurrence that there's not sufficient power plant capacity to supply the peak demand.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

And yeah, that's exactly what happens.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

The utility has to

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

curtail the demand.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Which was designed to incentivize new capacity to come online to make sure that PJM will be able to keep meeting that peak demand in the future.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Yeah, exactly.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

So it's trying to look out in the future and say, how much power are we going to need?

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

If we don't have it right now, can we provide a price signal so that a generation developer thinks, oh, there's money here, let me build my power plant in PJM.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Up until now-ish, like for the past couple of decades, the U.S.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

electricity sector as a whole has been operating in essentially a flat demand environment.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Electricity demand just wasn't growing that much.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

The capacity market is becoming a lot tighter.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

You know, the demand is there and the supply is maybe not high.

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