Katie Bindley

The experience got Katie thinking.

I mean, I remember driving behind them again in the early days and being like, oh, God, I'm behind a Waymo.

This is so annoying because they were so careful and slow.

And you'd be like, come on, Waymo, I'm in a hurry.

How did you see that out on the roads?

Like not just stopping at a stop sign, but like a kind of a longer stop than you might feel necessary, especially if you're in a hurry.

Or I know they would not necessarily like go around a stopped Uber or a delivery truck.

They'd like wait.

Yeah.

It is when you pull up to a stop sign and the car does not come to a complete stop.

It slows down kind of to a crawl and the person like looks both ways and then they just go.

I wonder if it would in San Francisco because I feel like it is very widely accepted as a thing you do.

He was like, yeah, we have been trying to make the cars more confidently assertive, as he put it, for a while now.

It's a strategy.

They do regular software updates.

So this is something that's been happening over time.

I mean, he described it as, you know, just kind of necessary in order to scale them up in San Francisco.

It's a busy city.

You've got tons of cars on the road.

When the Waymos are too passive, it becomes disruptive to the rest of traffic.