Katie Drummond

Has that made your life and this pursuit, this project around crypto harder?

Has it made it easier?

Like, how has Donald Trump's full-throated endorsement of cryptocurrency affected what you were trying to do and the change you're trying to affect?

He sure did.

Yeah.

Interesting.

We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

You've been on this war path for years.

You wrote a book already.

Tell me about the origins of the documentary.

I mean, as you say, this goes back like many, many years now.

Sounds too good to be true.

And how do you think about, I mean, you interview Alex, you talk to SBF in the film too, but this sort of culture of person who is drawn to cryptocurrency, we could describe them as crypto bros.

I mean, there are women involved as well, but it's sort of like the crypto guy, right?

And they're kind of slimy.

There's something really inauthentic about them.

And they are essentially, you know,

preying on more vulnerable people as part of this massive exploit, right?

This massive scheme.

There are people in my life who are of a certain generation, I mean, many decades older than I am, who have invested retirement money into cryptocurrency.