Katie Martin

A maniac to tell you to do it at the cost of otherwise losing your job.

Right.

And at the end of this process where people are kind of forced to use this technology, which, you know, Nikolai thinks is a great benefit to the organization.

But at the end of this process, they send a survey to everyone in the building and say,

how much more efficient are you as a result of AI?

And I think the result was something like 12%.

Of course, you're going to say that if your boss is forcing you to use the technology, right?

But I don't have anyone breathing down my neck telling me to use telephones or telling me to use WhatsApp or telling me to use email because it's just an obvious efficiency to my day.

So

it's this constant question around technology isn't it it creates it creates productivity but you just can't see it anywhere so there is a valid question around how useful this stuff really is and I think also you know what I gather is that you know companies are asking much tougher questions now it's like hang on before we commit this money and this time and this resource to this technology show me the proof points and actually that's something that investors are becoming somewhat more rigorous about as well it's kind of

you know, like, show me.

You can't just sort of wave your hands and say, oh, something, something generative AI.

It's like, no, no, no, I need practical evidence that this stuff is any good.

So that sort of rigor is probably helpful.

But yeah, you know, there have been famous surveys.

There was the study last year, was it from MIT that said something like 95% of companies that have adopted AI, I think it's a total waste of time.

I personally don't use it.

No, nothing like that.

My 17-year-old son, I mean, he can barely get out of bed in the morning at all, but he can barely tie his own shoelaces without asking ChatGPT how to do it.

There's a whole generation of kids that are absolutely...