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Katie Ring

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Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

But on the other hand, there's a lot of people who have had and experienced much more severe abuse that haven't turned out to be serial killers.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Most psychologists say that Ted Bundy showed strong signs of psychopathy.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

And one thing that's interesting is that researchers are now suggesting that traits of psychopathy actually have biological components, particularly in how the brain is wired.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So on one hand, we have people who have been severely abused in childhood who have not become serial killers or even violent.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

And on the other side, we do have psychopaths who have grown up in seemingly normal houses and have become serial killers.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So I believe that upbringing doesn't determine everything, but it can shape how traits unfold, like abuse, attachment disruption, identity confusion, and abandonment.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

can all impact development in meaningful ways.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So could a loving, stable household have changed his path?

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Possibly, but the short and somewhat unsatisfying answer is that we'll never know.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So going back to psychopathy, many psychopaths actually have an unsettling ability to blend in.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So as children, a lot of them are looked at as weird or don't fit in, but over time, they're able to observe,

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

how people have interpersonal relationships, and they can actually model that very well.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So even though they may not feel emotions deeply, they can perform them very convincingly

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

And a lot of them aren't just good at blending in.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

They are actually very charismatic, charming, and even magnetic.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So I think that's part of the reason Ted Bundy's story fascinated people so much.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Because before cases like this, many people imagined serial killers as monsters or some like obvious weirdos.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

But Bundy didn't fit that image.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Like he was educated.

Khloé in Wonder Land
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

He fit in socially.