Katie Sitterson

I want to say that being closer to it gives me more hope.

It makes me feel, I don't know if that's true.

I feel like that's terrible to say.

Okay, so the Katie before she ever went to protest, the Katie that used to vote Republican was like, all in democracy.

Like, I had no idea, like, what's really going on and what, you know?

And so now the closer I get to, I'm like, what is going on?

Right?

Yeah, absolutely.

Around the corner?

That is a fair point to make, right?

Like, how far do you go with trying to save democracy if the things you're doing are eroding it?

It's complicated to say, okay, well, we're going to fight back and we're going to draw the maps in a way that sort of minimizes some people's voices, but we're doing it for the greater good.

But then the conversation I'd have with people is, well, how do you feel about what was already done, right?

Like, you should—if you're angry at what's happening here in Virginia and the gerrymandering that we're advocating for, were you equally as angry about these other things that Donald Trump is—

I think so.

I mean, you have a person who's putting up gold statues and decking out the White House, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

Ballrooms.

Yeah, like, I just, I don't know.

It's hard.