Katy

Right.

That is a whole different, whole different 80.

Crazy.

And she had lived through so much scandal in her life.

But we've got one more scandal that I thought was interesting.

She is buried next to Henry and on her tomb, her effigy, which is like, you know, where they like have supposed to look like you laying there.

It doesn't seem scandalous to us now, but she requested to have her effigy be of a woman reading a book.

Which now is like, okay, she liked to read, but then was such a symbol of intelligence and of autonomy, which then was very much kind of like a, oh, a book was a bit of a scandal.

What, the woman?

Yeah.

What the woman?

Yeah, she's like, I was smart.

And it's still there today.

So it was her permanent way of saying, like, remember, I am going to I'm going to do what I want to do.

Well, thanks so much for letting me come on here and tell Eleanor's story.

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