Kayla Guo
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first heard Feb 2025
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Normally in just the news reporting business in general, you kind of have a sense of what at least are the options for what might happen. That was not the case for this story.
Her condition had only gotten worse, and she had been, again, sick for some time now.
The doctors saw symptoms that, at that time, told them to diagnose shaken baby syndrome.
The medical consensus said that if a child presented with a triad of symptoms, that means unexplained bleeding in the brain, bleeding behind the retinas and brain swelling, doctors could and should make a diagnosis of shaken baby syndrome. And they could presume that somebody had violently shaken this baby and caused these injuries.
Nikki had been transported to Dallas without Robert knowing. And so I don't know exactly how he found out she had died, but she died when he was not with her and he was not in Dallas with her when she died.
He has maintained his innocence through all of this. One of the aspects impacting the investigation is he's a man with autism, and that wasn't a diagnosis that the doctors or investigators knew about at the time that he had at the time. But investigators have said they looked at his flat affect as evidence of his guilt.
The investigator, the lead investigator in his case, Brian Wharton, he said that Robert didn't seem too concerned in that moment, wasn't reacting how you might expect another parent to react in that situation when their child seems to be in grave danger. His emotional reaction to, I think, both Nikki's condition at the time and And his arrest later on, his expressive reaction was atypical.
And that was one of the things that I think investigators thought was evidence of his guilt at the time. At the trial, the state's case hinged on this shaken baby diagnosis, which again, presumes abuse on the part of the caretaker, in this case, Robert. They pointed to Nikki's autopsy report. They had a few medical experts come testify, one being the person who conducted the autopsy. And...
They describe Nikki as ill, and they describe blunt force trauma to her head, which is consistent with shaken baby syndrome. Shaking is not distinguishable from what you might normally think of as blunt force.
At trial, Robert had maintained his innocence, but his defense attorney at the time did not pursue the innocence claim. His defense attorney's defense was mainly that Robert hadn't meant to kill Nikki in allegedly shaking her. And so that was the entirety of his defense was that he didn't mean to ultimately kill her.
Again, Robert has said he was innocent of it and that there was no shaking involved to begin with, that Nikki was just deeply ill and this was the final collapse.
Yes. He had said immediately in the aftermath of it all that she had fallen off the bed, and he couldn't explain. He didn't have the medical expertise to explain her condition, and that was what he said had just happened, was he woke up to find her fallen from the bed, and that's what prompted him to bring her to the emergency room.
Right. In the medical community at the time, the consensus was if an infant shows up with these three symptoms, pretty much by default, automatically you assume abuse. And so I think that was a really strong driving factor in the course of the trial was this confidence boost.
not just from these doctors who treated Nikki, but from the broader medical community, the broader medical guidance, instructed doctors to do this, said, if you see these three things, it's abuse. And that, I think, really informed how the prosecutor handled it, how his defense attorney handled it, and how a jury handled it as well.
Texas tends to go through with its executions once they're on the calendar, and so it seemed like that is how it would go. But never could I have guessed or imagined it would become the story that it did. Everything that happened was unprecedented, so there was no guidance or real ability to predict what might happen next.
It was a really widely heralded law. It was imitated across the country. Texas was seen as sort of a trailblazer. And lawmakers passed this law in an effort to acknowledge that science changes and the understanding of science and evidence evolves as scientific knowledge gets better. And the criminal justice system at this point wasn't equipped to acknowledge that.
Studies showed that many of those same symptoms could also be caused by shortfalls or Some naturally occurring medical conditions, accidental traumas, and research has also found that shaking a baby that violently would likely have broken their neck, which Nikki did not have a broken neck at the time. So the medical consensus around how to make these diagnoses has changed.
The medical guidance now also emphasizes that a doctor should consider all other possible factors leading to these symptoms that aren't abuse before they can conclude that it was abuse that did it. So it's a pretty fraught diagnosis. It's certainly a real condition.
It's just fraught on how and when doctors make that diagnosis and point to abuse versus a naturally occurring medical condition or some other accidental trauma.
Saying the science around shaken baby syndrome has changed. That's clear in his case. The court should give it a second look. The state's highest criminal court agreed and said, okay, this warrants a second look. They sent his case back down to the trial court to handle the new evidence claim. And that is notable because the state's highest criminal court
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