Kayla Guo
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But other than that, it didn't seem like he really had any options after all of his appeals were struck down by the court. At the same time, there's this public campaign brewing, urging somebody to do something at this point. He has advocates like John Grisham, who has spoken on his behalf.
But other than that, it didn't seem like he really had any options after all of his appeals were struck down by the court. At the same time, there's this public campaign brewing, urging somebody to do something at this point. He has advocates like John Grisham, who has spoken on his behalf.
Dr. Phil, the lead investigator in his case, has spoken to media and testified in public forums and has been very vocal about his belief that he got it wrong and this is an innocent person, he believes. Texas state lawmakers also weigh in, and they're urging the clemency board to grant him clemency and to recommend clemency. They're urging the governor to step in.
Dr. Phil, the lead investigator in his case, has spoken to media and testified in public forums and has been very vocal about his belief that he got it wrong and this is an innocent person, he believes. Texas state lawmakers also weigh in, and they're urging the clemency board to grant him clemency and to recommend clemency. They're urging the governor to step in.
But at the end of the day, he's still sentenced to death. That is still the facts of the case, no matter how many people speak out on his behalf, and it would have required...
But at the end of the day, he's still sentenced to death. That is still the facts of the case, no matter how many people speak out on his behalf, and it would have required...
either somebody on the court's criminal court deciding, maybe we got this wrong, maybe let's do yet another look, or the district attorney saying, maybe there's some problems with how we prosecuted this case, or it would have required a select few people had to change their minds in order to actually make a difference in his case.
either somebody on the court's criminal court deciding, maybe we got this wrong, maybe let's do yet another look, or the district attorney saying, maybe there's some problems with how we prosecuted this case, or it would have required a select few people had to change their minds in order to actually make a difference in his case.
Yes. And also, in the week before his execution was set, the state's highest criminal court, the same court that has denied his appeals over and over again, overturned another Shaken Baby Syndrome conviction out of Dallas County. In that opinion, the court acknowledged that the scientific knowledge around Shaken Baby has evolved.
Yes. And also, in the week before his execution was set, the state's highest criminal court, the same court that has denied his appeals over and over again, overturned another Shaken Baby Syndrome conviction out of Dallas County. In that opinion, the court acknowledged that the scientific knowledge around Shaken Baby has evolved.
And, you know, believes that this conviction and this other person's case was wrong. And so his lawyers are pointing to that as, you know, like, you've acknowledged that the signs has changed. Why can't you acknowledge it also in Robert's case? And a large majority of the Texas House has signed a letter urging clemency at this point, which is really rare to get that number on paper.
And, you know, believes that this conviction and this other person's case was wrong. And so his lawyers are pointing to that as, you know, like, you've acknowledged that the signs has changed. Why can't you acknowledge it also in Robert's case? And a large majority of the Texas House has signed a letter urging clemency at this point, which is really rare to get that number on paper.
86 lawmakers signed this letter urging clemency. It's rare to get that number on most things, much less, you know, something about the death penalty. But they were united in believing that something here had gone wrong and this was someone who deserved another look.
86 lawmakers signed this letter urging clemency. It's rare to get that number on most things, much less, you know, something about the death penalty. But they were united in believing that something here had gone wrong and this was someone who deserved another look.
And at this hearing, they invited a bunch of different expert witnesses, people who study criminal justice in the state, medical experts, the prosecuting district attorney and Roberts' appeals attorney to come testify. They laid out all this evidence that a jury had never heard, that had not been presented to the jury at the time, again, because the science was different at the time.
And at this hearing, they invited a bunch of different expert witnesses, people who study criminal justice in the state, medical experts, the prosecuting district attorney and Roberts' appeals attorney to come testify. They laid out all this evidence that a jury had never heard, that had not been presented to the jury at the time, again, because the science was different at the time.
taking this discussion over is he innocent or is he guilty out of the courtroom and into sort of the public discourse, into the state capitol, which is not where death penalty cases are litigated, but this is where the lawmakers had taken it.
taking this discussion over is he innocent or is he guilty out of the courtroom and into sort of the public discourse, into the state capitol, which is not where death penalty cases are litigated, but this is where the lawmakers had taken it.
It was intense. He, I believe, was the first witness to come before the committee that morning. The hearing room was fairly packed at that point, and his testimony was emotional, it was personal, and he was reaching 20 years into his memory to tell lawmakers about how he believed he got it wrong and how he helped send what he now thinks is an innocent man to death row.
It was intense. He, I believe, was the first witness to come before the committee that morning. The hearing room was fairly packed at that point, and his testimony was emotional, it was personal, and he was reaching 20 years into his memory to tell lawmakers about how he believed he got it wrong and how he helped send what he now thinks is an innocent man to death row.