Kayla Murphy

I've been practicing for over five years now.

And I think that's the mark for most states where you can try to get, gosh, what's it called?

No.

Typically, the police will arrest somebody.

And we'll get into that, I think, a little bit more about how sometimes they don't arrest the right person.

But then they get booked into jail, they go in front of the judge, and then they either get assigned a public defender or told they don't qualify for a public defender.

And then if they didn't qualify, that's when they would be looking for a

What would disqualify someone from a public defender?

Making too much money.

You have to be like a certain percentage under the poverty guidelines in order to qualify.

No.

No.

I mean, you fill out a financial, at least in the court where I work, you fill out a financial affidavit that the judge looks over.

No, you put in your expenses and everything.

But again, it's just like a certain percentage under the poverty guidelines.

So like probably, probably not.

Or maybe he does now?

Gosh, I want to say I heard a statistic recently where I want to say it's 80% of people end up having to use the services of a public defender.

Honestly, some of the best criminal defense attorneys I've ever known have been public defenders.

And some attorneys who maybe I wouldn't personally want to represent me are private attorneys.