Keith Morrison

But when she was able to get access to Sarah's phone, she discovered at the times that Sarah claimed that she was asleep on the couch, she was actually up walking around, making calls to other people, doing this, that, and the other.

Certainly she wasn't asleep.

And certainly she would have heard all of those alarms when they went off and chose to do nothing about it, which kind of formed, I think, the basis for the charges against her.

They were.

And I felt for them so deeply to have to go through life the way they did.

It sounded like a pretty difficult way to grow up.

The children that I talked to, though, seemed to be remarkably well-adjusted, or at least able to talk about what happened to them in a very clear-headed way.

Sure.

They had a complicated relationship, those two.

I think that Sarah really tried to manipulate Ashley for years and years and was obviously trying to do that in their conversations from the jail.

The recordings that we heard, it was –

An effort to guilt Ashley into doing something on her mother's behalf.

But at that point, Ashley was beyond it.

She wasn't going to get involved.

It was part of a pile of things.

I think it was an indication that she was aware of the fact that there was a strong case against her, that she understood what that case was.

So did it point to her guilt?

Perhaps it did.

I think the prosecutor was able to use that attitude as part of the case.

It was an interesting trial, a fascinating case to look into.