Keith Morrison

And, you know, was able to persuade her or help persuade an official of the United Nations to make her husband into an honorary ambassador.

I mean, it was just phenomenal, the sorts of things she was able to get away with.

And then along the way, she was trying, of course, to get her son Kent to be her acolyte, to train him to be just like her.

And she was making fine progress until he got scared straight in his mid-teens, both by the efforts of a girlfriend and by the recognition that he would probably spend most of the rest of his life in prison if he kept doing this sort of thing.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

I, you know, I, I have no doubt she would have been, I mean, they, they took that thread very seriously.

Um,

Simply, you cannot cross Sante and get away with it.

And she didn't want somebody coming between her and either one of her sons.

That was simply not going to be allowed.

It did because I think he was smart and never recognized the logical outcome of this sort of behavior.

And she felt that she was smarter than any authorities who would try to catch her.

One of the other things about that bunch that fascinated me, and I'll include Kenneth Sr., her husband with this, the millionaire, was –

How good they were at persuading otherwise normal people to engage in criminal behavior at their behest.

You know, they could persuade them to burn a house down.

They could persuade them to illegally sign their name to a deed.

They were just phenomenally good at doing that sort of thing, and she was.

And I think it was her charisma and charm that really, you know, led that parade.

They had two ideas.

One was that they were going to take it over and rent the apartments for a lot of money.