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Keith Romer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

His job is to make sure that the multicolored grid that AEP owns stays up and running and to figure out what new red and green and black power lines need to be built to get all the electricity where it needs to go.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

It costs billions of dollars to expand that highway system, to build out those long distance transmission networks.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Those costs get passed on to customers, just like costs get passed on for distribution at the local level.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

When AEP spends money to upgrade its infrastructure, it's generally allowed to recoup that money from the people it serves.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

The regulator that has to approve any price increases, in this case, is the federal government.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

It is really hard to tease out precisely how much of the increase in Ken and Carol's electricity charges comes from building out the transmission grid.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

let alone isolate what part of that build-out was specifically due to data centers.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

But from what we can tell from talking to experts and comparing their old bills to their new ones, transmission, it actually isn't that big of a culprit either.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Transmission charges did go up over the last five years, but that change seems to account for less than 20% of their total increase.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Which leaves more than half of the increase unaccounted for.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

The culprit here is generation.

Planet Money
What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

It's the power plants that make the electricity in the first place.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

But that story is way, way weirder than just power plants jacked up their prices.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

And in a lot of the western and southern parts of the U.S., you still do have these vertically integrated omnibus power companies.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

But for now, we are going to stay with Ohio.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

And in Ohio, about 25 years ago, they threw out that old system and they broke up these vertically integrated companies.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

And it worked for a while.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

But today, with all the new demand for power from data centers, that system is starting to break down.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

To help explain this bit, we called up Kathy Kunkel.

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What AI data centers are doing to your electric bill

Kathy is an energy consultant at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis.