Kelly Cates

I'm guessing to win the league title in the next year or two.

I'm pretty sure it would be.

And are we all going to sit here and go, yeah, we think he's capable of doing it.

I don't think he is.

So I think that experience must come into it.

So when you're speaking, Ancelotti, for example, you said I was out there.

So just if Ancelotti walks in the summer and he's chatting to the players, I'm sure they're going, this is a guy who's won loads of stuff.

And if Carrick's the manager in the summer and he's coming back and Casemiro's gone, he's making decisions on Maguire, it's a different vibe at the club then.

They won't be seeing him as this nice guy.

He'll have to make tough decisions.

And that's where the challenge is coming from.

But if he does all that and he produces and he starts winning trophies next year or two...

I'll tell you what, I didn't see that coming.

I didn't see that coming.

But people like Ancelotti, when you're playing and a manager walks in your dressing room, I played under Brian Clough for Alex, when they come into your dressing room, they walk in and you go, oh yeah, I like this.

No, you're talking.

Has Carrick got that huge respect amongst the players?

Maybe they have because he's a nice guy and all this, but I'm on about bringing...

Bring in a CV with you.

You go, oh, here we go.