Kelly Holley-Bockelmann

Definitely the second.

I cannot be wrong.

That's the coolest part.

Say that out loud.

cannot wait to be wrong though that is the best part is like there's gonna be something like like for example when right before uh the discovery of uh not discovery the detection of of gravitational waves with LIGO if you asked any astrophysicist what is the mass of a of a stellar mass black hole they say 10 solar masses I have

I, in grad school, had tests and I wrote 10 solar masses.

And if I didn't, I would be wrong because they would mark you off.

What did what did LIGO detect?

30 solar mass black holes.

And so immediately afterwards, all the astrophysicists were like, how do we make these black holes?

I don't know.

They went back to their drawing board and we learned a whole bunch of really cool stuff.

That's going to happen when Lisa launches and it's going to be the best thing.

It's going to make us all wrong.

Absolutely.

And that kind of goes back to the FISC program.

We search for folks who will be comfortable and excited about not always getting the right answer.

I think that makes the best scientists.

Something like that.

Something along those lines.