Kelly Slater

But then we're all humans with emotions, so sometimes it's your friend, and sometimes it's somebody you want to lose.

There's all these things that are biased.

Yeah.

And so the judges do their best to try to be robots.

that really they try to judge the skill set but they're surfers in their own right but then but then you know getting back to the feeling thing when you watch somebody serve if you if you understand surfing and you're trying to score it or decide what's better or worse you can almost feel what that person feels and we there's a thing in surfing about claiming like we you know people claim a ride or claim maneuver and

And you can tell if somebody really feels it or if they're trying to sell it to the judges.

And, you know, I need this score.

So you're just like, yes.

And you can tell that, like, okay, that guy's way better than, that's not close to his best maneuver.

So he can't be that excited about that.

Right, right.

But it could be a close heat, and he needs to get through there for a certain result at the end of the year or in this contest or whatever.

And so he might be excited not because it was the greatest maneuver, but because he does think that he beat that person or she thinks she beat that person.

So there's different reasons why you might claim a wave.

But the most respect in surfing has always come from guys that don't claim anything at all.

And there are guys like some of the older guys that would never do a hand gesture at all.

at all.

And those are the guys you always look back in history.

Yeah.

You look back in history.