Kelly Slater

You're like, I'm still at it, bro.

But I can't imagine that there's a lot of money in surfing unless you are at the- No, most of our money is sponsorship dollars and you got to get a certain notoriety and that kind of thing.

But the money in surfing has dried up a little bit in recent years because surfing was built on the backs of these-

originally from the 60s and 70s where these guys wanted to go surf around the world.

So they started companies to sell clothes and wetsuits so they could fund their own surf trips.

That's really how the Rip Curls, Billabongs, Quicksilvers of the world started.

All the big brands from surfing.

And then if you extend further out, then you go into like Volcom and other brands that were started by surfers as well.

But they basically were like a means to an end to get around the world and go surf these places they wanted to go.

And Quicksilver started by, it was Alan Green and John Law in Australia.

And they had a couple of friends and they made some surf trunks and were selling them out of the back of the, literally out of the trunk of their car.

And then they make enough money and go on a surf trip.

And then they realized, like, oh, well, all these surfers need gear.

That's an authentic brand.

Yeah.

And then all these surfers need gear.

And then, you know, their other friend started a wetsuit company, and that was Rip Curl.

And, you know, eventually then all those brands ended up, like, Quicksilver started making wetsuits, and Rip Curl started making clothing.

Right.

So then everyone's making everything.