Kelsey Grammer
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586 appearances
6 recordings
5 series
first heard May 2025
last heard 26 Dec
Kelsey Grammer’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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He's still in jail. The guy that plunged a knife into her is still in jail. One of the other fellas that was involved is gone now. And I think the other one is gone as well, although I had been told he left early. He was gone earlier. So it was really three men who were responsible for her abduction and rape and then murder. But the one, I guess, really wanted to kill her.
If you go to the framework of basic Christianity, and I'm a Christian, I was raised as a Christian scientist, which is a bit more metaphysical and a bit more esoteric in some ways. There is good and evil. And you just have to recognize that you can get sucked into one or the other. or drawn to one, sucked into another.
I've certainly flirted with dangerous times in my life, times that maybe I was in over my head, stuff that I was better off not knowing I felt I still needed to go through. Maybe that's when you're open to maybe going a little darker and doing some things that hurt people.
I feel pretty blessed that I didn't actually get there where I really destroyed anybody else or did something as vicious or violent as that. But you can lose focus. You can lose your life. You can lose your heart. You can lose your soul. You can actually become just a dark player. And I think they went there. I think that's where they were. And in fact, they even craved it.
Now, whether or not that's God or Satan, or I've heard some people talk about, you know, where was God during the Holocaust? and others have rebutted it, saying, well, and that makes you think man's a better idea than God? Certainly man was the creator of that particular energy. Was he in Satan's thrall, if you want to reduce it to that kind of metaphor? Yeah, maybe that's what's going on.
I recently did a men's retreat with some guys. It's a Christian-based recovery for warriors, basically. Operation Recovered Warrior. And they allowed me to come because my common ground is not warfare. When you realize what they're talking about is your common ground is warfare because we're born into warfare here. On this plane, it's God and devil stuff, and that's battle.
I never thought about it that way. They encouraged this idea that Christ is the greatest warrior because his weapon is love, and he is not a pussy.
I think that's it. That just makes me think of this movie called We Were Soldiers. Mel Gibson's film. It's terrific. But Sam, I'm afraid to say his last name right now, but they have a scene together where Mel Gibson's worried about turning out like Custer. And that's how it ended up like that. The one major difference between Hugh and Custer is Custer was a pussy. It's like.
It's a wonderful moment. Yeah, Jesus is the power. If you fall into that place, start to understand that maybe there are some things going on here that are not part of you. And I think they were in that place to get back to it.
Right. I have been guilty of letting that be the final memory of her. the definitive memory. And I think the book was meant for me to change that. And it did. It brought grief and celebration in line with each other because the grief was so overwhelming and the celebration didn't exist really. I'd lost that. And the book helped me find it again, helped me find Karen again.
And to remember her, which I talk about, but to remember somebody into the grace of the good that they left you and the good that you had with them, that's more important than the grief. The grief is forever. It's just there imprinted on you. But it's only a crime if you allow the grief to overwhelm the imprint of the good. That's what the book's about.
Yeah, that was hard. Success has been great. I love my job. I love acting. I love it because it's like a discovery. For me, at least, it's a discovery of truth. It's a character, but it's still universal truth. It's a good play, Shakespeare being one of the best. If you have that opportunity to encounter what is a universal truth, you are supernatural. And that is a drug.
That's an amazing way to live one's life. And to have it be punctuated by this overwhelming grief that's always lingering. Maybe the book was meant for me to be able to let that go, to diffuse it finally. But it was always there, and it was always hard. And sometimes it would creep into my performances, but only when it was appropriate.
I mean, I talk about the performance of rehearsing it when Gertrude tells him about his sister's death. And I just... overwhelmed me. It was all Karen. It was all coming in. I didn't choose to do that. It just came. And that's what I mean, I guess, about that being open. And that's when my dog ran up on stage and started to lick my face and kiss me. She was such a wonderful animal.
But yeah, this book has helped me come to terms with the fact that the grief was overwhelming, but not so that it would overwhelm the beauty of Karen.
Yeah, good question. A pal of mine once said, he said, the cause of addiction, he says, is unresolved grief.
Kind of holds up. If you really examine almost any situation where someone's stuck in something, it's grief for whatever was enough for them. I've had some people look at me and say, you know, you haven't been through so much. And I thought to myself, Yeah, okay. That may be true.
It was enough for me to mess me up.
You fall in love with people who just know how to say terrible things.
You actually said that. Wow. I know. But I got through that one. It's fine. I think what I was really trying to do was just feel as much as I could feel. And I mean, I did some wonderful, crazy stuff. I loved the things I was doing on a big bender or out one night with a bunch of guys doing a lot of blow, whatever it was you were doing. We were having fun and then it just stopped being fun.
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