Kelsey Hightower

Yeah, and also we didn't know we can trust it, right?

Remember, Docker is the king.

Docker's number one.

There's Docker Swarm, right?

And we're with fleet.

And right now we're like, Google also launched years prior a thing called Let Me Contain That For You.

It was a container runtime written in C++ to compete with Docker.

And no one cared.

And so we didn't know, like, maybe no one's going to care about this either.

It's only when I started going home and starting doing small contributions and starting to read everything and getting a feel for it, I was like, no, there's something here.

And so for maybe two or three months, and luckily the founders of Chorus were really nice, Alex Povey and Brandon, they were just like,

They didn't get mad or anything.

I was contributing nights and weekends, kind of like I was at the other company.

All of my keynotes were more like Kubernetes plus CoreOS.

And I remember at some point, it was inevitable.

We all got in a room.

I became the product manager of CoreOS at the time.

And Alex was like, I think you got the vision here.

And we got everybody in the basement in San Francisco in the office.

We were like, hey, guys.