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Kelsey Hightower

πŸ‘€ Speaker
2824 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

Yeah, so I'm one of those people.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

I don't like ultimatums.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

It's hard.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

For an ultimatum would be you're working at a company for a couple of years.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

You're doing a really good job.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

I'm just going to make up numbers here just to protect everybody.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

but let's just say you're making $100,000.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

And for a lot of times, you could be happy with 100,000.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

And so a company says, hey, we're hiring.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

And you go there, you do an interview, and they say, look, we're paying $120,000.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

At that moment, you're actually worth $120,000 because you now have evidence from the market.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

The 100,000 you currently make doesn't look so good anymore.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

You can't unsee a job offer for 120.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

And so now you have to make a decision.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

You can commit to that.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

Leave your job and go make 120 and start over.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

Or you can do the ultimatum thing.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

If you don't pay me 120, then I'm leaving.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

And that puts everybody in a weird predicament because sometimes it doesn't have to be that adversarial.

The Pragmatic Engineer
Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower

Sometimes it's just, this is evidence that, hey, look, I want to advocate for myself.