Kemi Badenoch

No, no, no, no. We have to take responsibility. But I'm setting some of the context that quite often we didn't always have the power. Do you remember when I was talking about making concessions to the left? We're making concessions so we can stay in office. we'll do this law that's not very good because we can get the votes on it. And that's not how to run a country.

No, no, no, no. We have to take responsibility. But I'm setting some of the context that quite often we didn't always have the power. Do you remember when I was talking about making concessions to the left? We're making concessions so we can stay in office. we'll do this law that's not very good because we can get the votes on it. And that's not how to run a country.

But to the point that you were making, why have we ended up where we are? It is increasing the size of the state and thinking that regulation is the way to solve everything. And it's often very hard for conservatives to explain this well. When we talk about deregulation, people think, oh, you're taking away our safety net, or you're just going to let cowboys do whatever they want.

But to the point that you were making, why have we ended up where we are? It is increasing the size of the state and thinking that regulation is the way to solve everything. And it's often very hard for conservatives to explain this well. When we talk about deregulation, people think, oh, you're taking away our safety net, or you're just going to let cowboys do whatever they want.

But to the point that you were making, why have we ended up where we are? It is increasing the size of the state and thinking that regulation is the way to solve everything. And it's often very hard for conservatives to explain this well. When we talk about deregulation, people think, oh, you're taking away our safety net, or you're just going to let cowboys do whatever they want.

But that's not really what it is. It's about... Making sure that people can carry out enterprise in a free way. Getting rid of regulations and laws that are holding people back, that aren't working. So we are not as free as the U.S. is in terms of setting up companies, starting things out. Even opening a bank account now has become more complicated.

But that's not really what it is. It's about... Making sure that people can carry out enterprise in a free way. Getting rid of regulations and laws that are holding people back, that aren't working. So we are not as free as the U.S. is in terms of setting up companies, starting things out. Even opening a bank account now has become more complicated.

But that's not really what it is. It's about... Making sure that people can carry out enterprise in a free way. Getting rid of regulations and laws that are holding people back, that aren't working. So we are not as free as the U.S. is in terms of setting up companies, starting things out. Even opening a bank account now has become more complicated.

Many of these things were because we were going along with EU regulation.

Many of these things were because we were going along with EU regulation.

Many of these things were because we were going along with EU regulation.

So leaving the EU should have been a way of breaking out of that and doing things better or differently and having a competitive advantage. But weirdly, when we left the EU, because we were trying to please many of the people who didn't want to leave, we made promises. And I say this, not me, but the government made promises of,

So leaving the EU should have been a way of breaking out of that and doing things better or differently and having a competitive advantage. But weirdly, when we left the EU, because we were trying to please many of the people who didn't want to leave, we made promises. And I say this, not me, but the government made promises of,

So leaving the EU should have been a way of breaking out of that and doing things better or differently and having a competitive advantage. But weirdly, when we left the EU, because we were trying to please many of the people who didn't want to leave, we made promises. And I say this, not me, but the government made promises of,

Well, we'll just keep doing things the same way and it'll all be fine. Then we have what I call treasury orthodoxy, which believes that wealth is GDP and you can increase GDP by increasing immigration. This is crazy because we ended up not increasing GDP per capita. which in itself is not necessarily the best metric.

Well, we'll just keep doing things the same way and it'll all be fine. Then we have what I call treasury orthodoxy, which believes that wealth is GDP and you can increase GDP by increasing immigration. This is crazy because we ended up not increasing GDP per capita. which in itself is not necessarily the best metric.

Well, we'll just keep doing things the same way and it'll all be fine. Then we have what I call treasury orthodoxy, which believes that wealth is GDP and you can increase GDP by increasing immigration. This is crazy because we ended up not increasing GDP per capita. which in itself is not necessarily the best metric.

But if people are not getting richer and the country is supposedly getting richer, something's going wrong. And I remember when I first became a new MP, I had companies, very, very well-known companies like the Wellcome Institute say, we can't get visas for the best sort of scientists. Can you help us? And I thought, this is crazy. Those are the people we should be letting in.

But if people are not getting richer and the country is supposedly getting richer, something's going wrong. And I remember when I first became a new MP, I had companies, very, very well-known companies like the Wellcome Institute say, we can't get visas for the best sort of scientists. Can you help us? And I thought, this is crazy. Those are the people we should be letting in.

But if people are not getting richer and the country is supposedly getting richer, something's going wrong. And I remember when I first became a new MP, I had companies, very, very well-known companies like the Wellcome Institute say, we can't get visas for the best sort of scientists. Can you help us? And I thought, this is crazy. Those are the people we should be letting in.