Kemi Badenoch

Yes, exactly. And that is not saying that our values are wrong. It's that you have to recognize that not everybody shares those values. So you can't use your values outside that system. It doesn't make sense. If you try and use free speech in a way where people will abuse that to defame other people, provide lots of misinformation and disinformation, then it doesn't work in the same way.

So you've got to have a way of managing that. So TikTok, for example, I don't use because I'm very worried about, you know, having Chinese spyware on your phone. Yes, exactly. Very worried about that. But also, if you allow other foreign actors to have free speech in your country, and they start saying things about your country that aren't true, you just say, hey, it's free speech. It's fine.

So you've got to have a way of managing that. So TikTok, for example, I don't use because I'm very worried about, you know, having Chinese spyware on your phone. Yes, exactly. Very worried about that. But also, if you allow other foreign actors to have free speech in your country, and they start saying things about your country that aren't true, you just say, hey, it's free speech. It's fine.

So you've got to have a way of managing that. So TikTok, for example, I don't use because I'm very worried about, you know, having Chinese spyware on your phone. Yes, exactly. Very worried about that. But also, if you allow other foreign actors to have free speech in your country, and they start saying things about your country that aren't true, you just say, hey, it's free speech. It's fine.

That doesn't work. You are allowing people to hack your system. This is the same with things like free markets. It's only a free market if everybody is playing by the rules. It's not I will do free markets and everybody else can do what they like. That is how globalization, in my view, went wrong.

That doesn't work. You are allowing people to hack your system. This is the same with things like free markets. It's only a free market if everybody is playing by the rules. It's not I will do free markets and everybody else can do what they like. That is how globalization, in my view, went wrong.

That doesn't work. You are allowing people to hack your system. This is the same with things like free markets. It's only a free market if everybody is playing by the rules. It's not I will do free markets and everybody else can do what they like. That is how globalization, in my view, went wrong.

So the reason why, you know, there's more protectionism is because we did not defend those values and apply them in a way that was very sensible. We've got to rethink that. And COVID showed us what happens when these things go wrong. So I think I express these things differently. Do I think that, you know, tariffs are helpful? Mostly no.

So the reason why, you know, there's more protectionism is because we did not defend those values and apply them in a way that was very sensible. We've got to rethink that. And COVID showed us what happens when these things go wrong. So I think I express these things differently. Do I think that, you know, tariffs are helpful? Mostly no.

So the reason why, you know, there's more protectionism is because we did not defend those values and apply them in a way that was very sensible. We've got to rethink that. And COVID showed us what happens when these things go wrong. So I think I express these things differently. Do I think that, you know, tariffs are helpful? Mostly no.

But they are useful and should be used appropriately in order to defend your economy and order to make sure that other people do not abuse your system. And the World Trade Organization gives levers for that. You know, if there is dumping taking place, you know, you have anti-dumping measures, anti-subsidization measures. So it's just about using the tools effectively and not being naive.

But they are useful and should be used appropriately in order to defend your economy and order to make sure that other people do not abuse your system. And the World Trade Organization gives levers for that. You know, if there is dumping taking place, you know, you have anti-dumping measures, anti-subsidization measures. So it's just about using the tools effectively and not being naive.

But they are useful and should be used appropriately in order to defend your economy and order to make sure that other people do not abuse your system. And the World Trade Organization gives levers for that. You know, if there is dumping taking place, you know, you have anti-dumping measures, anti-subsidization measures. So it's just about using the tools effectively and not being naive.

Well, I think it is both the US's and the EU's Rome, or Greece, I should say, or Greece to everybody's Rome. I think that the role that we have in the world is one where we are connected to so many places, either from the Commonwealth, the legacy of empire, the Anglosphere. It's not just us, it's Canada, it's Australia. And, you know, it's even places like Nigeria and Kenya.

Well, I think it is both the US's and the EU's Rome, or Greece, I should say, or Greece to everybody's Rome. I think that the role that we have in the world is one where we are connected to so many places, either from the Commonwealth, the legacy of empire, the Anglosphere. It's not just us, it's Canada, it's Australia. And, you know, it's even places like Nigeria and Kenya.

Well, I think it is both the US's and the EU's Rome, or Greece, I should say, or Greece to everybody's Rome. I think that the role that we have in the world is one where we are connected to so many places, either from the Commonwealth, the legacy of empire, the Anglosphere. It's not just us, it's Canada, it's Australia. And, you know, it's even places like Nigeria and Kenya.

There is a lot that we know. We have a lot of links around the world. We have a lot of knowledge and we should use that power, whether it's soft power or hard power, in the interests of our values and making sure that the world does not become a place that is dominated by axes of countries that are actually trying to destroy so much about what is good.

There is a lot that we know. We have a lot of links around the world. We have a lot of knowledge and we should use that power, whether it's soft power or hard power, in the interests of our values and making sure that the world does not become a place that is dominated by axes of countries that are actually trying to destroy so much about what is good.

There is a lot that we know. We have a lot of links around the world. We have a lot of knowledge and we should use that power, whether it's soft power or hard power, in the interests of our values and making sure that the world does not become a place that is dominated by axes of countries that are actually trying to destroy so much about what is good.

It is very clear that there is an axis of authoritarian states that are collaborating against the West. You see it with the North Koreans in Russia. You see it with China and Iran. There is collusion taking place. We know this. And yet we, at this point, have just lost our confidence.