Ken Burns

Yes, indeed.

And I've spent most of my professional life, not ignoring them in favor of chronicling them in some ways, chronicling them in some ways, but you know,

But it's not all dark either.

It's an incredibly positive story.

And if you listed all the good things, I don't know any other country on earth that could put up, you know, starting with the Declaration, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

And then you just go on, whether it's land grant colleges or national parks or Homestead Act or, you know, child labor laws or antitrust or, you know, the GI Bill or Social Security, labor's right to organize interstate highway, man on the moon, affordable care, Medicaid, etc.

Medicare, you know, voting.

I mean, this is like an amazing stuff and it has tangible things.

William Luchtenberg, the latest story and died recently at 102, was an advisor for almost all the films that we worked on.

But he was in our Roosevelt thing.

He said, you land at LaGuardia.

fdr new deal you go across the bridge fdr new deal you go through the lincoln tunnel fdr you go down the skyline drive and the you know blue ridge parkway thing if you do the lincoln highway if you do this damn 10 000 landing strips you begin to understand all of the ways in which just that one presidential administration transformed the country how long

Yeah, I think that's the correct.

Although we've had things like the Shakers and baseball and jazz, country music.

But we unlock the narrative and are more impressionistic for the last 25, 30 years.

That's what I've said.

So the actual event of the Central Park Jogger, that's a film that came out in 2012, 2013, was 1989.

So it's still 25 years.

It's still under 25 years, but it's enough.

Things are collapsing.